Posts by tim hooper

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Is this proof that JWs are false prophets?

by Comatose in

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tim hooper

"Jehovah's witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."

This is rationalisation, justification and just plain excusation gone crazy. "In their eagerness", "suggested" and dates that "turned out to be incorrect" are just trite phrases that minimise the truth of the situation.

The plain facts are that they misled their flock. And as such are false prophets. 1975 saw the end of any remaining WT credibilty.

There you go. On the basis of their past reputation they are not to be trusted. People who want to serve their God would probably get more of his approval by joining the Boy Scouts.

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Fifty Years Ago-The Beatles Enter My Life

by Band on the Run in

jw
friends

the beatles were on ed sullivan for the first time fifty years ago.

it blows my mind.

i gave them three months and i was a fan before they appeared.

tim hooper

WT 8-1-68

3 In England, the Beatles are declared to be more popular than Jesus Christ among teen-agers. The old religion is reportedly dead. There is a new religion now. It is the religion of the young crowd, with the young sound. John Lennon of the Beatles, recognizing this sweeping change in the world, announced: “Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. We’re more popular than Jesus now.” A young girl siding in with him asked: “Do you see a girl screaming over a picture of Christ as they do over a picture of the Beatles?” Quite naturally not. As little Zacchaeus once climbed up a fig-mulberry tree in order to get a better glimpse of Jesus Christ, so now youngsters line the rafters to get a better look at those who stir their souls. At the sight of the Beatles one girl cried out: “O my God! O my God! I can’t stand it. I can’t stand it.” “God” was on her lips, but it was not a minister of God or the message of Christ that was stirring her soul.—Luke 19:2-8.

Spoilsports!

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Lyrebird - Hoax Or Not?

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2014/02/absurd-creature-week-lyrebird/.

what sounds can a lyrebird accurately reproduce?

there are spoofs and hoaxes but also reported evidence that they can make some amazing sounds.

tim hooper

It was an April fools joke made by the BBC.

This one was brilliant, BBC again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4

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Powerful and Damning Awake quote, and questions to help JWs think....

by BU2B in

just thought of another question that could start someone waking up.

you could say something to the effect of, "i was thinking how if we were to come across a person in the ministry who asks us how luke 21:8 does not apply to jws in light of the comments such as the ones (quoted below) how could we respond?".

or you could say that someone at work or school presented you with the awake quote and said luke 21:8 proves jws false, then you could say you need help coming up with a response to him.. luke 21:8 .

tim hooper

"Awake! 22 May, 1969, p15: "If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things."

Question: Did the WT state that a young person would never grow old?

Answer: Yes they did say that.

Question: Did those young people never grow old?

Answer: No. Those young people DID grow old.

Question: Did the WT make a prophesy that did not come true?

Answer: Yes they did make a prophesy that did not come true.

On the basis of their past reputation, have the WT society and it's associated bodies proved themselves to be trustworthy, believable and competent?

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Was There ANYTHING The Watchtower Taught You That Benefited You?

by minimus in

besides learning how to speak publicly, has the watchtower given you any benefits?

?.

tim hooper

I learned that they're the reason that the word "gullible" was removed from the dictionary.

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NEW BOE LETTER - It just got exponentially harder to "fade"

by sir82 in

jw
friends

here is the text of the letter:.

february 2, 2014. .

your brothers,.

tim hooper

Certain disfellowshipped persons get an annual visit?

What's a certain disfellowshipped person?

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Imagine A World Where Being "Gay" The Norm & Being "Straight" Would Be The Minority!

by Dis-Member in

imagine a world where being "gay" the norm & being "straight" would be the minority!

[short film].. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnojgdw0gpi.

tim hooper

yadda said:

So sick of hearing about gays and their precious rights and demands.

Demands from minorities are generally pretty tedious to the majority. However, everyone has a right to be heard IMHO, be they of the minority, in accord with the minority or opposed to the minority. It's about tolerance. Tolerance is accepting something one doesn't like very much. Heteros need to accept homosexuality as something a person is born into. Homosexuals need to accept that their activities may be considered distasteful to some heteros. It's all about live and let live and not shoving our personal choices down the throats of those who are different to ourselves.

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Were you 'alive in '75' and how was that year for you?

by punkofnice in

i was a junior borgite in 1975. i remeber looking at the calendar at work in october and thinking: 'armageddon isn't here yet.....and it doesn't feel like it will be here anytime soon either!'.

i was surprised that jehovah hadn't obeyed the superior command to bring the big 'a' as instructed to him by fred franz.

how dare god disobey the jw leader!!!!!.

tim hooper

Armageddon? There were much scarier things on our minds in 1975...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPi40lQetew

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Relocation of UK Bethel

by krejames in

i heard a rumour that the uk hq is moving from mill hill in london to a location in essex near chelmsford.

explanation being that it's closer to the transport networks.

anyone know anymore?.

tim hooper

Yup - they're going to build a new bethel in Chelmsford on the site of a scrap metal business.

http://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/Jehovah-s-Witnesses-plan-UK-HQ-county/story-20479709-detail/story.html

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Why Do Some Ex-JWs Get Their Feelings Hurt So Badly By Shunning?

by RottenRiley in

i ran in to a ex-jw and had a good laugh once he realized i was not going to shun him.

i am a different soul when we are dealing with watchtower demonology, everything about the organization is fan boy based.

watchtower creates the illusion of a community that never existed, we were too blind to realize most of the people we invested time with was nothing more than a farce, once you can't offer up more sacrfices on the watchtower's alter, your going to get less attention and eventually if your kingdom hall is big enough, they won't come looking for you.. .

tim hooper

I was shunned exactly as I had anticipated. I accepted it, but avoided putting myself into any situation where it could happen. I just totally ignored all JW's which did seem to disconcert a few of them. A couple of JW's approached me to tell me why they were going to shun me, and I just asked: "Why?" The inevitable reply was: "Because you're disfellowshipped" I'd then ask why was I disfellowshipped to which they'd reply they didn't know why. I'd then point out that they were shunning me but they didn't know why and were they happy with that?